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paul ryan, for the most part, maintaining his cool, not interrupting joe biden. but joe biden, sort of what we saw mitt romney do the first time around, always getting the last word, making sure that no point went unsubpoenad to, paul ryan looking maybe more respectful, but perhaps in the minds of some, perhaps more weak. we would -- we will find out. steve hayes and joe trippi. on the set, we were discussing whether -- joe biden was having an al gore moment. did he go too far with the smirking, such that the substance will be undermined? >> i think he had a very strong debate. but was diminished, i thought was diminished by the smirking and he overdid t. i think, look, he surprised me on how aggressive and defensive on the economy, bringing up the 47%. i was very surprised, though, about how strong ryan was on foreign policy. it's going to be interesting how this plays out because i think... i think women were up for grabs here. i think that biden really scored points that the last thing we need is another ground war in the middle-east. there were different issu
paul ryan, for the most part, maintaining his cool, not interrupting joe biden. but joe biden, sort of what we saw mitt romney do the first time around, always getting the last word, making sure that no point went unsubpoenad to, paul ryan looking maybe more respectful, but perhaps in the minds of some, perhaps more weak. we would -- we will find out. steve hayes and joe trippi. on the set, we were discussing whether -- joe biden was having an al gore moment. did he go too far with the...
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what do romney/ryan need to do at hoff stra. this is barack obama's territory. he likes the town hall meetings. i think he will feel a lot more comfortable and go on the attack? >> he does. but i think one of the reasons we saw a sort of reduced barack obama, if you will, in the last debate is because he has a tendence tow come off as arrogant and smug and petty, almost as if he can't believe someone would have the audacity to disagree with his opinion. that's what he has to avoid. i think he was toned down in denver because he was advised not to be that barack obama. don't be overly arrogant toward rim rim. now he has to find that balance, which i don't think joe biden found last night. i think saturday night live will have a great skit -- >> don't count on it. >> well, you are probably right. but he's got to be able to do that. he has to be able to take the bite, like joe biden did -- joe biden took the fight to paul ryan. romney has to do exactly what he did in denver. he has to be the person he is. mitt romney we saw in the primary, the one who defined himse
what do romney/ryan need to do at hoff stra. this is barack obama's territory. he likes the town hall meetings. i think he will feel a lot more comfortable and go on the attack? >> he does. but i think one of the reasons we saw a sort of reduced barack obama, if you will, in the last debate is because he has a tendence tow come off as arrogant and smug and petty, almost as if he can't believe someone would have the audacity to disagree with his opinion. that's what he has to avoid. i...
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megyn: ed rollins, senior romney advisers say if ryan wins or it's a draw the romney-ryan ticket wins. >> i think ryan will win. even though biden ran more president he got 1% last time before he dropped out. he hasn't had great appeal. sarah palin with her lack of experience stood toe to toe on him. ryan is the smartest republican on the hill. you will find a tough opponent who knows the issues better than anybody. megyn: karl rove talks about the debate we saw in denver between romney and obama may be among the most consequential in history. it might end up as the election decision point. he talks about the polls and he goes through north carolina early voting, this is one of the swing states everybody is watching. in 2008 he said the democrats had a 21-point advantage early voting. now they are 26 points behind the republicans. he says in florida. in 2008 the democrats had a 9-point advantage over the republicans when it came to absentee ballots now they are 8 points behind. he thinks given the way this election is unfolding in october before we get to november 6, that early victor
megyn: ed rollins, senior romney advisers say if ryan wins or it's a draw the romney-ryan ticket wins. >> i think ryan will win. even though biden ran more president he got 1% last time before he dropped out. he hasn't had great appeal. sarah palin with her lack of experience stood toe to toe on him. ryan is the smartest republican on the hill. you will find a tough opponent who knows the issues better than anybody. megyn: karl rove talks about the debate we saw in denver between romney...
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i got to go. >> the romney ryan campaign has been criticized for not doing it enough. now the obama campaign is trying to blame it on them. >> bill: ryan has to -- the f.b.i. and c.i.a. are
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romney unlocked paul ryan to a certain extent and now he can leverage him if ryan can get the space to talk about it in the debate. >> paul: mary. >> i think what you can expect from paul ryan, he will repeat over and over again, the 716 billion dollars in medicare cuts that obama is putting on people who are right now relying on medicare. and he will show, he will try to show that his plan will actually save medicare while obama will destroy it. i think that's his greatest edge and that's where he's going to go. >> paul: he's got a delicate task because i think he has to defend, jason, i think he has to defend romney against what will be biden's task even as he turns around and tries to go after the president's agenda while showing his own competence on substance, on these issues, that's a more complicated taste and biden is basically going to be all in assaulting romney. >> and i think that biden is going to want to talk foreign policy and i think the polls have shown that the president's doing good on that, not as well as he was, that gap has narrowed with the events in the middle e
romney unlocked paul ryan to a certain extent and now he can leverage him if ryan can get the space to talk about it in the debate. >> paul: mary. >> i think what you can expect from paul ryan, he will repeat over and over again, the 716 billion dollars in medicare cuts that obama is putting on people who are right now relying on medicare. and he will show, he will try to show that his plan will actually save medicare while obama will destroy it. i think that's his greatest edge and...
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part of the problem is that i have asked romney and ryan repeatedly. i asked ryan on this show last sunday not -- i don't agree with you it is a $5 trillion tax cut but i said where do you make up the $5 trillion for are lowering tax rates in terms of the deductions and loopholes, how do you make it up? they reduce to tell us. independent experts say even if you took away all of the deductions it is not going to add up to $5 trillion. >> the governor said he understands he has to work with both sides of the aisle. we know right now for example in the house dave camp is working on the issue of lowering, simplifying, and even in the senate they had discussions. he said in the debate i will work with members of both sides of the aisle. looking at a simpson bowles type model. this is not new and we know that it can be done. if you go back to when it was last done of simplifying the tax code. >> simpson boles were more specific about yes, lowering the rates. >> he said he is going to work across the aisle. he is going to listen to both sides of the aisle an
part of the problem is that i have asked romney and ryan repeatedly. i asked ryan on this show last sunday not -- i don't agree with you it is a $5 trillion tax cut but i said where do you make up the $5 trillion for are lowering tax rates in terms of the deductions and loopholes, how do you make it up? they reduce to tell us. independent experts say even if you took away all of the deductions it is not going to add up to $5 trillion. >> the governor said he understands he has to work...
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big jump, 4 out of 5 polls, mitt romney and paul ryan lead. have you big poll numbers in florida and virginia, showing people in just a second. abc and cbs admits the ticket is gaining ground, post debate. nbc, no, not much of an impact at ms-nbc. >> florida, ohio and virginia, battleground states. what we see on the screen, a tight, tight, dead heat in florida and in virginia. in ohio, you still see the president hanging on to a lead. i guess you could say that romney has the trend line, but ohio is still a problem. >> another factor in all three of these polls, over 90% said the debate made no difference. 6, 7 and 7% respectively who said the debates mattered to their vote. that is, not as helpful to romney as he might have hoped. >> the debate has not as much of an impact. >> sean: i was thinking that if joe biden loses and 25 day, i am thinking that nbc news -- it's a perfect place for an unhinged, over-the-top, extreme leftist. he would be perfect over there. >> chuck todd, the political director of nbc news labeled the rasmussen poll, qu
big jump, 4 out of 5 polls, mitt romney and paul ryan lead. have you big poll numbers in florida and virginia, showing people in just a second. abc and cbs admits the ticket is gaining ground, post debate. nbc, no, not much of an impact at ms-nbc. >> florida, ohio and virginia, battleground states. what we see on the screen, a tight, tight, dead heat in florida and in virginia. in ohio, you still see the president hanging on to a lead. i guess you could say that romney has the trend line,...
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ryan, i want to ask you about -- the romney campaign talks a lot about no apologies. he has a book called "no apologies." should the u.s. have apologized for americans burning korans in afghanistan? should the u.s. apologize for u.s. marines urinating on taliban corpses? >> oh, gosh, yes. urine urinating on corpses. we should not apologize for standing up for our values and saying that the egyptian people, while mubarak is cracking down on them that he's a good guy and the next week say he ought to go. we should not be rejecting claims for calls for more security in our baraks in our marines. we need marines in benghazi when the commander on the ground says we need more forces for security. there were requests for extra security. the requests were not honored. look, this was the anniversary of 9/11. it was libya, a country we knee we had al qaeda cell there is, as we know al qaeda and its affiliates are on the rise in northern africa. we did not give our ambassador in benghazi a marine detachment? of course, there is an investigation so we can make sure this never hap
ryan, i want to ask you about -- the romney campaign talks a lot about no apologies. he has a book called "no apologies." should the u.s. have apologized for americans burning korans in afghanistan? should the u.s. apologize for u.s. marines urinating on taliban corpses? >> oh, gosh, yes. urine urinating on corpses. we should not apologize for standing up for our values and saying that the egyptian people, while mubarak is cracking down on them that he's a good guy and the next...
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and paul ryan and tommy thompson. >> and what if they get e mitt romney and paul ryan and it is not tommy thompson. by that you may get elected and the polls are looking better for you but the senate doesn't go republican. it is harder is it not for even a president like romney, president romney to do something, right? >> there is no question it is harder. but i have been in washington when the presidency changed from democrat to republican under george bush and then from bill clinton to george w. bush and also when george w. bush won the second election. his relect and there is a tremendous and after the election which will be vitriolic and vicious, both political parties will come together with the idea they have to do better and there is a feeling of good will for who ever the president is and that will help us even if harry reid is in control of the u.s. senate which i hope never happens. >> hope springs eternal. of the wisconsin.from the we call would his opponent and never heard back. she is always welcome on here. and a lot more for what is at stake. we spent the better part
and paul ryan and tommy thompson. >> and what if they get e mitt romney and paul ryan and it is not tommy thompson. by that you may get elected and the polls are looking better for you but the senate doesn't go republican. it is harder is it not for even a president like romney, president romney to do something, right? >> there is no question it is harder. but i have been in washington when the presidency changed from democrat to republican under george bush and then from bill...
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. >> behind that group of people is romney/ryan. >> signs are always in the perfect position for the television cameras or still photographers to pick them up. >> because of how cameras work, we have something here like 40, 50-foot banners cover buildings and get in a tight shot. >> it's the first thing he walks past that people say as he makes the pivot toward the stage. >> what difference does it make? >> visuals matter so much. campaigns come down to photography. campaigns need light and sound. >> ladies and gentlemen, please welcome the next president of the united states! >> keep it up, keep it up. >> now kill it, kill it. >> if we fail, the message stays here with 2,000 or 3,000 people in cleveland, ohio. the goal is to make sure it translates to as many folks as possible. >> ritter monitors the events as they happen. >> hey, will, you're live on all the cables. can i get more hand signs to that crowd behind the gov? >> setting up one event may take weeks and yet -- >> it may last ten minutes. >> then they do it again. 1:00, 2:00 in the morning, we'll do it again. it heads to t
. >> behind that group of people is romney/ryan. >> signs are always in the perfect position for the television cameras or still photographers to pick them up. >> because of how cameras work, we have something here like 40, 50-foot banners cover buildings and get in a tight shot. >> it's the first thing he walks past that people say as he makes the pivot toward the stage. >> what difference does it make? >> visuals matter so much. campaigns come down to...
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>> i thought paul ryan was very strong in making the case for the path that the ryan-romney -- romney-ryan ticket would take the country in terms of stronger middle class and look, i'm not sure anyone told vice president biden that there is a split screen shot here sometimes when you're in this debate and i thought that these are very serious issues and i'll let the american people judge how vice president biden did in terms of his facial expressions and his chuckles. >> gretchen: what did you think about that, ed? you've been in politics a long time. some people are saying they haven't seen anything like this in 40 years. i mean, did you think it was disrespectful to paul ryan? >> you know, i thought it was really disrespectful to the american people. when you're talking about some very serious issues and people, their quality of life and their jobs and falling incomes, you know, i think that's serious. and joe biden seemed to at times find those topics amusing. i'm not sure that most americans watching felt that way. but the problem for them, gretchen, is not style. it's substance and th
>> i thought paul ryan was very strong in making the case for the path that the ryan-romney -- romney-ryan ticket would take the country in terms of stronger middle class and look, i'm not sure anyone told vice president biden that there is a split screen shot here sometimes when you're in this debate and i thought that these are very serious issues and i'll let the american people judge how vice president biden did in terms of his facial expressions and his chuckles. >> gretchen:...
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republican nominee paul ryan trying to build on team romney's momentum. that is how it started last night. this morning we end. i'm bill hemmer. welcome to friday edition of "america's newsroom." martha is out. >> i'm jamie colby out for martha they provided points and issues on zingers and economy and debate decorum. >> mr. vice president, i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for lost ground but i think people would be better served if we don't keep interrupting each other. >> with regard to social security, we will not, we will not privatize it. if we listened to governor romney and congressman during the bush years, man where all those seniors would be now if there money had been in the market. their ideas are old and their ideas are bad and they eliminate the guaranty of medicare. >> here he is the problem. they got caught with their hands in the cookie jar turning medicare into a piggybank for obamacare. >> usually when there is a crisis we pull together. we pull together as a nation. as i said, even before we knew what happened to the amba
republican nominee paul ryan trying to build on team romney's momentum. that is how it started last night. this morning we end. i'm bill hemmer. welcome to friday edition of "america's newsroom." martha is out. >> i'm jamie colby out for martha they provided points and issues on zingers and economy and debate decorum. >> mr. vice president, i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for lost ground but i think people would be better served if we don't keep interrupting...
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or they are preparing the zingers to attack romney/ryan. >> a couple of things. it seems they are taking this debate a lot more seriously than last week's presidential debate. i think it was smart to get vice-president biden off the campaign trail -- >> a whole week? >> yes! guaranteed. he would have done something that would have been a gaffe that we would have played all the way going into the debate. instead, no one's going to see him until thursday. i think that's a really smart strategy. >> sean: he hasn't done an interview -- >> he doesn't have to. >> sean: for five months? there hasn't been a daily briefing in 15 days. >> did you go 15 days without a briefing. >> not in the cam pape season. >> sean: why do i suspect that this is going to be full-on attack, if i am paul ryan, i hope he is prepare for example that aspect of the debate. there is a lot of material. i mean, they could start with, lyou said, joe, obama is clean -- took a bath, i guess. articulate. you remember those comments? you can't go to a dunkin donuts or a 7-eleven without a slight indian
or they are preparing the zingers to attack romney/ryan. >> a couple of things. it seems they are taking this debate a lot more seriously than last week's presidential debate. i think it was smart to get vice-president biden off the campaign trail -- >> a whole week? >> yes! guaranteed. he would have done something that would have been a gaffe that we would have played all the way going into the debate. instead, no one's going to see him until thursday. i think that's a really...
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i believe in paul ryan and mitt romney. and i think steve israel will find out that republicans hold the house quite soundly, defeating democrats. >> shannon: we will find out, one month from today. thank you for your time today. >> you bet. >> reporter: >> shannon: pastors across the country are sounding off on moral, social and political issues today, part of pulpit freedom sunday. it could be coming to a church near you. we will talk about it and wais at stake, right after the break. [ thunder crashes ] [ female announcer ] some people like to pretend a flood could never happen to them. and that their homeowners insurance protects them. [ thunder crashes ] it doesn't. stop pretending. only flood insurance covers floods. ♪ visit floodsmart.gov/pretend to learn your risk. [ male announcer ] jill and her mouth have lived a great life. but she has some dental issues she's not happy about. so i introduced jill to crest pro-health for life. selected for people over 50. pro-health for life is a toothpaste that defends against
i believe in paul ryan and mitt romney. and i think steve israel will find out that republicans hold the house quite soundly, defeating democrats. >> shannon: we will find out, one month from today. thank you for your time today. >> you bet. >> reporter: >> shannon: pastors across the country are sounding off on moral, social and political issues today, part of pulpit freedom sunday. it could be coming to a church near you. we will talk about it and wais at stake, right...
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couple of weeks from the romney-ryan campaign. a week ago, we had a presidential debate, mitt romney all of a sudden said there was no $5 trillion cu tax cut. i imagine that will be a topic. paul ryan once said he didn't have time to do the math on the tax cut. openfully tonight over 90 minutes he can do the math for us. >> bret: you even concedeed on the show with the deduction and credits while they haven't listed them specifically it wouldn't $5 trillion. >> here is what i said. he put out a number of tax cuts whether it's the estate tax, lowering everyone's rate by 20%, getting rid of the amt, payroll tax, number of tax cut he put on the table. the sum of the tax cuts is $5 trillion. >> bret: he said in the debate? you capped it, set a cap you could reach it. tax policy center which you cite, campaign cites says that you could reach the number that he is talking about -- >> no, it didn't say that. if you could reach the number -- you could add up the deduction and loopholes to $5 trillion if you raise taxes on the middle class
couple of weeks from the romney-ryan campaign. a week ago, we had a presidential debate, mitt romney all of a sudden said there was no $5 trillion cu tax cut. i imagine that will be a topic. paul ryan once said he didn't have time to do the math on the tax cut. openfully tonight over 90 minutes he can do the math for us. >> bret: you even concedeed on the show with the deduction and credits while they haven't listed them specifically it wouldn't $5 trillion. >> here is what i said....
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after the vice president debate, romney-ryan ticket is riding high with polls and pundits dubbing it a draw. >> did you get a chance to watch the debate last night? yeah. yeah. i think you might agree with me that there was one person on stage last night who was thoughtful, and respectful, steady, and poised. the kind of perp you want to turn to in a crisis. that was the next vice president of the united states paul ryan. [ applause ] >> i feel great. >> over breakfast, ryan said he was pleased by the performance and had been ready for biden's attacks. >> how do you feel? >> it's what i expected. >> biden was clearly the aggressor. >> with all due respect that's a bunch of mu lar i can. >> vice president scoffed so much at ryan the rnc pumped out a web video immediately. snap polls showed a split decision. 48% of debate watchers said ryan won in cnn poll to 44% biden. >> we're saying these are from your act wares -- >> who interrupted ryan so often he accused biden overcompensating for the president's losing performance last week. >> i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for
after the vice president debate, romney-ryan ticket is riding high with polls and pundits dubbing it a draw. >> did you get a chance to watch the debate last night? yeah. yeah. i think you might agree with me that there was one person on stage last night who was thoughtful, and respectful, steady, and poised. the kind of perp you want to turn to in a crisis. that was the next vice president of the united states paul ryan. [ applause ] >> i feel great. >> over breakfast, ryan...
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and, romney-ryan on the move. bill: the way mike murphy explains it, republican strategist on "meet the press" sunday morning, democrats could be desperate. do you agree with that? >> they're certainly very worried. the degree of concern they had over the president's performance in denver is much deeper than we even thought. they're very, very worried about that. they're looking for joe biden to come out and deliver a lot of zingers and attack lines that barack obama didn't. this is the second chance in the presidential debate. there is not another actual presidential debate until october 16th. bill: listen how paul ryan explains how he sees vice president joe biden. >> he is fast on the cuff. he is a witty guy. he knows who he is and been doing this for 40 years. so, you're not going to rattle joe biden. joe biden has been on the national stage. he ran for president twice as sitting vice president. bill: probably a smart strategy. what he is saying there, be careful and do not underestimate the vice president, de
and, romney-ryan on the move. bill: the way mike murphy explains it, republican strategist on "meet the press" sunday morning, democrats could be desperate. do you agree with that? >> they're certainly very worried. the degree of concern they had over the president's performance in denver is much deeper than we even thought. they're very, very worried about that. they're looking for joe biden to come out and deliver a lot of zingers and attack lines that barack obama didn't....
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governor romney and congressman ryan. >> you know, in terms of the political saigs of this we're here at a debate. but the entire reason that this has become the you know political topic it is is because of mitt romney and paul ryan. it's a big part of their stump speech. it's reckless and irresponsible. >> greta: what about at ab? you've got sound byte of the vice president and the sound byte of stephanie cutter. the vice president seems to have his facts fuzzy z stephanie blaming romney. >> the administration has a problem with the libya story. everyone knows what happened and everyone read all of the accounts, these conflicting accounts and they vai problem with this. and they need to know it. they need to figure this out. and if biden says something today that turns out to be, can be proven wrong in the next couple days that actually divides president and president knew their requests for more security from benghazi to the state department and they're turned down, they knew it all along. that is going to be a huge problem. but this story is a huge problem if that is never determin
governor romney and congressman ryan. >> you know, in terms of the political saigs of this we're here at a debate. but the entire reason that this has become the you know political topic it is is because of mitt romney and paul ryan. it's a big part of their stump speech. it's reckless and irresponsible. >> greta: what about at ab? you've got sound byte of the vice president and the sound byte of stephanie cutter. the vice president seems to have his facts fuzzy z stephanie blaming...
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mitt romney called paul ryan today as well, wished him luck. both sides gearing up for this. you mentioned that achille's foot. some analysts say in this kind of format, the vice president won't slip up. >> in debates, particularly against sarah palin four years ago, he was pretty disciplined. i think republicans would be unwise to count on a biden gaffe occurring during this debate. >> senior democrat told me a short time ago where the vice president does get in trouble is not in this format, but a tv interview and he starts winding around and telling a long story and goes off message. another thing to watch tonight is that this is not just domestic policy like the first debate. it's foreign policy as well. that terrorist attack in libya could come up tonight for the first time in one of these debates. >> shep: yeah, i would be surprised if it didn't. what's the obama campaign telling you about the strategy and taking on congressman ryan? >> they're saying to me in private that he's not really just taking on congressman ryan. the plan, the strategy is to go after the top of
mitt romney called paul ryan today as well, wished him luck. both sides gearing up for this. you mentioned that achille's foot. some analysts say in this kind of format, the vice president won't slip up. >> in debates, particularly against sarah palin four years ago, he was pretty disciplined. i think republicans would be unwise to count on a biden gaffe occurring during this debate. >> senior democrat told me a short time ago where the vice president does get in trouble is not in...
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. >> behind that group of people is romney/ryan. >> signs are always in the perfect position for the television cameras or still photographers to pick them up. >> because of how cameras work, we have something here like 40, 50-foot banners cover buildings and get in a tight shot. >> it's the first thing he walks past that people say as he makes the pivot toward the stage. >> what difference does it make? >> visuals matter so much. campaigns come down to photography. campaigns need light and sound. >> ladies and gentlemen, please welcome the next president of the united states! >> keep it up, keep it up. >> now kill it, kill it. >> if we fail, the message stays here with 2,000 or 3,000 people in cleveland, ohio. the goal is to make sure it translates to as many folks as possible. >> ritter monitors the events as they happen. >> hey, will, you're live on all the cables. can i get more hand signs to that crowd behind the gov? >> setting up one event may take weeks and yet -- >> it may last ten minutes. >> then they do it again. 1:00, 2:00 in the morning, we'll do it again. it heads to t
. >> behind that group of people is romney/ryan. >> signs are always in the perfect position for the television cameras or still photographers to pick them up. >> because of how cameras work, we have something here like 40, 50-foot banners cover buildings and get in a tight shot. >> it's the first thing he walks past that people say as he makes the pivot toward the stage. >> what difference does it make? >> visuals matter so much. campaigns come down to...
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not to ryan but to romney. if i were biden i would take all 45 minutes of the 90 minutes i have to attack romney both on the record and romney was wrong about the $5 trillion tax cut and doesn't do anything for the unsinced. uninsured. and raise things that obama didn't raise for whatever reason. the 47%. george w. bush was not mentioned in the debate wednesday night. bain capital. it will be a big assault both personal and in policy terms on mitt romney from joe biden. puts paul ryan in a tricky position. he would like to go on the offensive. he is good at prosecuting that record, the debt and obama care and all that but he also has to defend romney and got to lot let biden undercut what romney did on wednesday night. >> geraldo: i read something that you wrote that suggested that romney won by being moral not just matter of fact about the issues of the economy for example. what did you mean? >> there was a key moment about 25 minutes in. they had the exchange on taxes for the first 20-25 minutes and romney di
not to ryan but to romney. if i were biden i would take all 45 minutes of the 90 minutes i have to attack romney both on the record and romney was wrong about the $5 trillion tax cut and doesn't do anything for the unsinced. uninsured. and raise things that obama didn't raise for whatever reason. the 47%. george w. bush was not mentioned in the debate wednesday night. bain capital. it will be a big assault both personal and in policy terms on mitt romney from joe biden. puts paul ryan in a...
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has saidsome. >> there is a story, but the vitriol and the tenor of romney/ryan about this is an attempt by them to use these very, the deaths of these very brave americans as a political wedge. this is, this is, you know, i think it was teddy roosevelt said patriotism is the last refuge of tie rants, and they're attempting to wrap themselves in the flag in the deaths of these poor americans in an attempt to distract from -- and the reason i talked about afghanistan and iraq and syria, that's their forum for distraction. megyn: you say tone and tenor, but it's been said romney almost never talks about this, so what specifically has he said or done when you speak about the vitriol and the tone and the tenor? >> well, the vitriol is what you saw from ryan in the debate the other night where they're clearly blaming the administration for the deaths of these folks. there's a connection here. administration didn't do its job, these people are dead. there's no evidence to suggest that. >> sure there is, there was a lack of security. you even admitted it. >> no. >> there was also warning that a
has saidsome. >> there is a story, but the vitriol and the tenor of romney/ryan about this is an attempt by them to use these very, the deaths of these very brave americans as a political wedge. this is, this is, you know, i think it was teddy roosevelt said patriotism is the last refuge of tie rants, and they're attempting to wrap themselves in the flag in the deaths of these poor americans in an attempt to distract from -- and the reason i talked about afghanistan and iraq and syria,...
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what would romney/ryan do about that? >> well, we agree with the same redline they do on chemical weapons. but not putting american troops in, other than to secure the chemical weapons. they are right about that. but what we should have done earlier is work with those freedom fighters, those dissidents in syria. we should not have called assad a reformer -- >> what is your criteria for -- >> we should not have waited for russia to give us the green light at the u.n. to do something. they are still arming the man. iran is flying flights over iraq -- >> and the opposition is being harmed -- >> to help assad. by the way, if we had the status of forces agreement that the vice-president said he would bet his vice presidency on, we would have been able to prevent that. but he failed to achieve that. >> what is your criteaserria for intervention. >> in syria? >> worldwide? >> what is in the national interest of the american people. >> how about humanitarian. >> it has to be in the strategic national interest of our country. >> n
what would romney/ryan do about that? >> well, we agree with the same redline they do on chemical weapons. but not putting american troops in, other than to secure the chemical weapons. they are right about that. but what we should have done earlier is work with those freedom fighters, those dissidents in syria. we should not have called assad a reformer -- >> what is your criteria for -- >> we should not have waited for russia to give us the green light at the u.n. to do...
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she blamed mitt romney and paul ryan. >> sean: nuts. >> it was a bizarre performance. >> sean: yes. in bengazi they were wrong. this is now unfolding as a huge scandal. >> absolutely. >> sean: they said this assistance wasn't requested. this is the anniversary of september 11th this, is a hot bed for where terrorists are being trained. and you would think on the anniversary of september 11th, then, they went out there weeks later blaming a video. now yes, it's a video. no. it's a video. yes, it's spontaneous, no. it's not spontaneous, biden contradicted the state department. >> you've got the white house pointing at the state department like joe biden did. he pointed to the state department and said we didn't know anything about this. they want it more security. state department pointing back to the white house. and you know what? i was sitting in the auditorium. i didn't get to see the split screen as much as you all did. i bet if you roll the tape during the discussion of bengazi -- . >> sean: don't miss my show tomorrow night. it's going to be about joe biden. if it takes seven m
she blamed mitt romney and paul ryan. >> sean: nuts. >> it was a bizarre performance. >> sean: yes. in bengazi they were wrong. this is now unfolding as a huge scandal. >> absolutely. >> sean: they said this assistance wasn't requested. this is the anniversary of september 11th this, is a hot bed for where terrorists are being trained. and you would think on the anniversary of september 11th, then, they went out there weeks later blaming a video. now yes, it's a...
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he said romney is a car guy. that is not a answer on the bailout. that is not an explanation. >> i think on domestic policy ryan did okay. most of the debate was foreign policy. but on domestic policy he did okay with the exception of his discussion of entitlement reform. biden got the best of him when he said who do you trust. he talked to the camera and that came off well for biden. he was defensive, ryan was in defending the budget proposal from the past and got distracted and on the whole rhine rain had a strong night. >> will this impact the presidential race, dan? or are we going to forget about it except for the saturday night clips. >> i think it will have an affect on the race. voters out there that are going to decide the election are paying close attention to what these people are saying in termings of why the economy is behaving poorly . if connected to what bark obama is doing in his stump speeches. he mocks and ridicules romney rather than (talking all at once.) ing about his record. biden's weird performance is a technique they adopte
he said romney is a car guy. that is not a answer on the bailout. that is not an explanation. >> i think on domestic policy ryan did okay. most of the debate was foreign policy. but on domestic policy he did okay with the exception of his discussion of entitlement reform. biden got the best of him when he said who do you trust. he talked to the camera and that came off well for biden. he was defensive, ryan was in defending the budget proposal from the past and got distracted and on the...
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the momentum is now with romney and ryan. the only way to block that momentum barring an obtain surprise may be for the president to decisively win tuesday's debate. >> i think he's going to be aggressive in making the case for his view of whether we should go as a country, and a country that is built around a growing, thriving middle class not this top down theory that governor romney has. >> there is one potentially very big obstacle to achieving that, however, this next debate is a town hall style debate with undecided voters picked by the gallop polls asking the questions with the moderator asking the follow-up. they tend to lean towards social issues, because citizen questioners often relate their personal antidotes or circumstances. to be aggressive in such a form can be off putting to some voters. candidates have to walk that fine line between being aggressive and being compassionate. martha: very true, doug. the citizen questioners are allowed to pose domestic questions or foreign policy questions, it's a mix. >> repo
the momentum is now with romney and ryan. the only way to block that momentum barring an obtain surprise may be for the president to decisively win tuesday's debate. >> i think he's going to be aggressive in making the case for his view of whether we should go as a country, and a country that is built around a growing, thriving middle class not this top down theory that governor romney has. >> there is one potentially very big obstacle to achieving that, however, this next debate is...
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romney will be more aggressive. >> he will have to be more aggressive than paul ryan. >> yeah. >> two things. i think you will see obama being more aggressive but without the smirking and without -- >> and more dangerous potentially. >> and with the difficulty of the next debate. when ordinary people are asking the question, it's hard to do that and turn to your opponent and attack. >> one of the problems the obama campaign has had had is before denver they were careful not to have the president be aggressive in his attacks because it would have a knock on his numbers. you see that now. there's a lot of independent who are still interested in voting for him because he likes him. if he's very mean and nasty the way biden was this week, that could hurt him more, especially among sub groups like women. >> when we come back, the congressional hearing on libya seeds new light on what happened before and during and after the attack and raises new questions about the administration's response. >> we will get to the bottom of it, and wherever the facts lead us, wherever they lead us, we will
romney will be more aggressive. >> he will have to be more aggressive than paul ryan. >> yeah. >> two things. i think you will see obama being more aggressive but without the smirking and without -- >> and more dangerous potentially. >> and with the difficulty of the next debate. when ordinary people are asking the question, it's hard to do that and turn to your opponent and attack. >> one of the problems the obama campaign has had had is before denver they...
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the poll changed, likely voters and romney-ryan ticket with one-point lead within the margin of error. among independent voters changed significantly. 44 to 3 #%, there you see. that is a big shift. steve, as promised, your thoughts on how the race has shifted as we get ready to head to danville, kentucky, tomorrow for the vice presidential debate? >> i think, evidence in the president's meants right there. i think they don't know how to answer this debate surge that romney has had. it's been a surge. it looks like sustained surge. you seen the white house scram to believe come up with an answer. first they said he was too conservative, then a flip-floper and then it was about big bird and he wasn't serious, this was an attempt to go after the deficit, he wasn't serious; whereas, they spent most of the campaign arguing that ryan and romney were radical, they wanted to overturn medicare, redo medicare. they just can't find their footing on solid argument so they are going back to the arguement that romney is a liar. the media amplified it. but it's not convincing argument when you have
the poll changed, likely voters and romney-ryan ticket with one-point lead within the margin of error. among independent voters changed significantly. 44 to 3 #%, there you see. that is a big shift. steve, as promised, your thoughts on how the race has shifted as we get ready to head to danville, kentucky, tomorrow for the vice presidential debate? >> i think, evidence in the president's meants right there. i think they don't know how to answer this debate surge that romney has had. it's...
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i think that this was a big win for romney. i think ryan will hammer it home. >> sean: they're going to sequester for six days biden? he can't come out in public? they're going to try to force his brain full of information? i just don't see that working. >> well, sean, maybe they take him off the trail for six days so he doesn't mess it up. >> sean: well, maybe mess it up -- >> there was no debate, they should still sequester him for six days. >> sean: probably for the rest of the campaign. you know, i want to go to your book for one second, because we don't have a lot of time tonight, but it's out in bookstores now. this has been something that a lot of conservatives have been concerned about. that is the growing influence and reliance on the united nations, worldwide taxes, which hillary mentioned just, what, two weeks ago, and that the very arguments for redistribution that we have in this country are going to be used to tax americans for the united nations or some global governance body. you say this is not a black helicopt
i think that this was a big win for romney. i think ryan will hammer it home. >> sean: they're going to sequester for six days biden? he can't come out in public? they're going to try to force his brain full of information? i just don't see that working. >> well, sean, maybe they take him off the trail for six days so he doesn't mess it up. >> sean: well, maybe mess it up -- >> there was no debate, they should still sequester him for six days. >> sean: probably for...
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romney's cancelled a thursday joint appearance on the view with wife ann who will appear solo while romney campaigns in virginia. ryan served up barbecue in ohio and headlined a town hall style meeting in his home state of wisconsin this morning where he slapped the obama administration for the 16 trillion dollar national debt which will be the subject of a romney policy speech later this week. >> the crescent came into office saying he -- the president came into office saying he would cut the deficit in half in his first term. he's given us four years of tripltrillion dollar deficits. he's added more debt than all previous presidents combined. >> he was charged with misleading the public, arguing that romney's plan to decrease military spending and cut taxes across the board is mathematically impossible without adding to the debt. with the polls tied nationally, romney's popularity is surging. the george washington university poll puts romney in positive territory for the first time. 54% favorable,44rs unverifiable. tomorrow's debate will show each candidates' ability to connect with vote
romney's cancelled a thursday joint appearance on the view with wife ann who will appear solo while romney campaigns in virginia. ryan served up barbecue in ohio and headlined a town hall style meeting in his home state of wisconsin this morning where he slapped the obama administration for the 16 trillion dollar national debt which will be the subject of a romney policy speech later this week. >> the crescent came into office saying he -- the president came into office saying he would...
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romney is going to have to do a little better than ryan did because ryan almost tack it a little too easily. jason? >> i agree. i think one of the problems with ryan's performance was allowing biden to get away with a lot of what you want to do, particularly on foreign policy, is similar to what we are doing. he has to differentiate themselves. they have to differentiates themselves on all these things from foreign policy to the domestic policy. but one of the weaknesses of the liar claim, i don't think it works well with the general public. all politicians they think stretch the truth. i don't know it's effective en those grounds alone. >> they aren't trying to repute romney, they are trying to ruin romney and they have been trying to do that from the beginning. i kind of degree with you, paul. >> think next week mitt romney has to call barack obama out in this tactic and put it in his face and tell the american people exactly what is going on here. >> let's look at a new mitt romney ad that is new on the jobs and economy. >> look at the evidence of the last four years. we have 23 m
romney is going to have to do a little better than ryan did because ryan almost tack it a little too easily. jason? >> i agree. i think one of the problems with ryan's performance was allowing biden to get away with a lot of what you want to do, particularly on foreign policy, is similar to what we are doing. he has to differentiate themselves. they have to differentiates themselves on all these things from foreign policy to the domestic policy. but one of the weaknesses of the liar...
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are an issue is because romney and ryan are making it one. romney said the reason it is an issue is because an american consulate was attacked by terrorists and four americans are dead. trace? >>trace: thank you, john roberts, from virginia. our g.o.p. strategist and former texas political director for bob dole's campaign and a democratic consultant and former advisor to senators john kerry and ted kennedy. anthony, i don't know if you could hear this, if you look across the board here, it was either a draw or joe biden had a little bit of an edge in some of the polls. that is on content. on style the vice president got hammered for the smirks and the laughs and the smiles. >> this is important. he came across as a bully. in question. i stopped counting the interrupts at 40, i thought that was enough. he was aggressive. he could not defend the failed policy of the last four years. so he attacked. he interrupted. he chastiseed the moderator. it was very evident in body language and style he was like obama, they both thought they were above the
are an issue is because romney and ryan are making it one. romney said the reason it is an issue is because an american consulate was attacked by terrorists and four americans are dead. trace? >>trace: thank you, john roberts, from virginia. our g.o.p. strategist and former texas political director for bob dole's campaign and a democratic consultant and former advisor to senators john kerry and ted kennedy. anthony, i don't know if you could hear this, if you look across the board here,...
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is that a danger for paul ryan? >> i think the -- the team, romney team is smart enough, they understand his strengths or weaknesses if there are any, but he's a book worm and knows the numbers, but at the same time so much attention as we know has been paid to biden's gaffes and the middle class, and raise taxes and we can't underestimate the fact that he's very strong and can relate to the people and resonate with the audience there and he will be able to engage in a good debate, but i believe that ryan knows that he's a book worm and he's smart, but also understands he has to be strong, but personable in that debalt and that's exactly what romney did, too, he was factual, but personable and i think that's the way that ryan will approach this debate. >> mike: i'll give you 30 seconds, that's all the time we have. i'd give you more if i had it. michael, if you thought there's one big issue we'll he see out of this vice-presidential debate that could be the important issue, the pick the issue, pick the candidate and
is that a danger for paul ryan? >> i think the -- the team, romney team is smart enough, they understand his strengths or weaknesses if there are any, but he's a book worm and knows the numbers, but at the same time so much attention as we know has been paid to biden's gaffes and the middle class, and raise taxes and we can't underestimate the fact that he's very strong and can relate to the people and resonate with the audience there and he will be able to engage in a good debate, but i...
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ryan is a numbers guy. how do you think he'll match up to vice president biden when it comes to the economy first, foreign policy second? >> i think it will be an even match. biden was in the senate 36 years so he has a very good understanding of federal issues as well. but paul ryan jokes about how he's been reading federal budgets since he was 22 years old. so they both have a very long backlog of data they can use. i think they'll be evenly match. >> what's your word of caution for each with 30 days to go? >> don't get overconfident for both sides. >> that's good. all right. erin, always great to talk to you. heating up, getting really close. we'll talk to you again. >> sounds good. >> you don't want to miss the first vice presidential debate. i'll be sitting in front of the tv. joe biden squaring off against paul ryan and this this is the e to tune in live. that happens on october 11, 9:00 p.m. tune in a few minutes more. lots of commentary too right here on the "fox news channel." >> speaking of foreig
ryan is a numbers guy. how do you think he'll match up to vice president biden when it comes to the economy first, foreign policy second? >> i think it will be an even match. biden was in the senate 36 years so he has a very good understanding of federal issues as well. but paul ryan jokes about how he's been reading federal budgets since he was 22 years old. so they both have a very long backlog of data they can use. i think they'll be evenly match. >> what's your word of caution...
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what romney and ryan have in their arsenal are the facts. that's why president obama could not come back again governor romney in the debate because he has the facts about the economy. alisyn: kirsten, is that how you interpret it? >> it's interesting to juxtapose this conversation against what's going on in this hearing with what happened in libya where there were some untruths told if you want to be subtle about it. when you have the administration being dishonest about the way they handled a very, very serious issue facing our country, to turn around and start accusing people of lying because of things that i think are probably differences of opinion, it's pretty startling. i think it's desperate. this liar liar strategy is very desperate and i don't know why they want to keep talking about the debate frankly considering obama really just was pretty much decimated byrum any in that debate. why they continue to bring it up befuddles me. alisyn: the president as you both recall when he was campaigning in 2008, he promised to be a post parti
what romney and ryan have in their arsenal are the facts. that's why president obama could not come back again governor romney in the debate because he has the facts about the economy. alisyn: kirsten, is that how you interpret it? >> it's interesting to juxtapose this conversation against what's going on in this hearing with what happened in libya where there were some untruths told if you want to be subtle about it. when you have the administration being dishonest about the way they...
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>> all about ohio and we've seen mitt romney and paul ryan in ohio just about every day for the past week and they will be going back next week. but, see a lot of battle back and forth in ohio and virginia. i think what we won't see them going to new hampshire and colorado as much. those are tight states but the romney campaign really needs to turn things around in ohio. he is getting closer but the president is still just slightly ahead in ohio. jon: interesting to me a lot of people say they are, they can't be swayed, their position is already cast in stone and yet when something like the denver debate happens all of a sudden a lot of people take a is second look at governor romney or perhaps president obama after the next debate. we'll see. >> there is small amount of undecided voters left. both sides will be firing up their base. we might see mitt romney tack a little toward the middle. as we saw vice-presidential debate, he went toward the base. they want to see heavy turnout that is what they're concerned about. jon: if enthusiasm for the president's ticket isn't as high four y
>> all about ohio and we've seen mitt romney and paul ryan in ohio just about every day for the past week and they will be going back next week. but, see a lot of battle back and forth in ohio and virginia. i think what we won't see them going to new hampshire and colorado as much. those are tight states but the romney campaign really needs to turn things around in ohio. he is getting closer but the president is still just slightly ahead in ohio. jon: interesting to me a lot of people say...
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remember governor romney's vice-presidental nominee paul ryan is of course a native of wisconsin. so is he a factor there? we'll take a look at some of the latest polls and maybe you can make up your own mind on that. in wisconsin the unemployment rate is just below the national average and it's in line with what we see for gas prices across the country. not in california but across the country. the number of visits for the president and mr. romney equal there in wisconsin both have visited twice. statistics, teny electorial votes from the state of wisconsin. the the state governor scott walker you know that name well. we'll talk about that factor, the factor of a republican governor with our next guest in just a moment. also as far as polling, though, this is the latest "real clear politics" average, the president pulling away a little bit from mitt romney. not as much as before in the last couple of weeks but up by six points in the state of wisconsin. joining us now craig gilbert the washington bureau chief and national political reporter for the milwaukee "centennial." you've
remember governor romney's vice-presidental nominee paul ryan is of course a native of wisconsin. so is he a factor there? we'll take a look at some of the latest polls and maybe you can make up your own mind on that. in wisconsin the unemployment rate is just below the national average and it's in line with what we see for gas prices across the country. not in california but across the country. the number of visits for the president and mr. romney equal there in wisconsin both have visited...
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romney campaign distanced themselves from paul ryan and the republican budget. >>shepard: is that true? >> absolutely not. absolutely not. he said we will not be ideologue. the first year paul ryan introduced the budget it was a proposal to save medicare and to fix entitlements and ron wyden, a liberal democrat from oregon, said he wanted to work with us because he wanted to solve the problems. so the second year --. >>shepard: medicare is a guaranteed benefit who earned it and paid into it. the ryan plan removes the guarantee saying you will get a voucher. >>shepard: if you want to make the option --. >> you have to have a map from the private sector insurance companies. if there is no option, you are stuck, and you are out of luck and have to pay out of pocket. >> what is your plan? i hope that joe biden has an opportunity to talk about his ideas. >>guest: the land is we extended the life of medicare and cut $700 billion out of the waste and fraud from medicare and increase the number of services and benefits that seniors were getting. we are closing the presc
romney campaign distanced themselves from paul ryan and the republican budget. >>shepard: is that true? >> absolutely not. absolutely not. he said we will not be ideologue. the first year paul ryan introduced the budget it was a proposal to save medicare and to fix entitlements and ron wyden, a liberal democrat from oregon, said he wanted to work with us because he wanted to solve the problems. so the second year --. >>shepard: medicare is a guaranteed benefit who earned it...